Spent this Christmas researching the subject and would like some opinions.
I began around September and managed to move objects far away, do remote viewing in the past and future and make people have thoughts and emotions... so it is minimally safe to say that this stuff (for lack of a better word) transcends space, time and carries information.
It can do mechanical work alright, but I would hesitate to call it "energy" in such a sense, as that would imply that it is a byproduct of physical matter, when actually, physical matter (at least from the atomic level up) might very well be the one that is byproduct of this stuff.
Pervading everything and interacting with consciousness seem to be two orher characteristics almost as if consciousness was a filter that shaped physicality
Would anyone say that during psychokinesis what is happening is that the person is manipulating those aspects that bring the physical world into existence so that a particular part, such as something moving, is created according to the newly changed parameters of the creation of the physical world?
This seems pretth sound, since so many other have already escalated quantum experiments to moleculelevel where matter behaves one way when observed and another when not observed and even entanglement at a distance (remote action, for short) exists in objects big enough to be seen by the naked eye
Thoughts please
Consciousness is fundamental; all of reality is you yourself. The sense of separation, is an ego construct. You are the vast infinite ocean; omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent:)
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I began around September and managed to move objects far away, do remote viewing in the past and future and make people have thoughts and emotions... so it is minimally safe to say that this stuff (for lack of a better word) transcends space, time and carries information....
It can do mechanical work alright, but I would hesitate to call it "energy" in such a sense, as that would imply that it is a byproduct of physical matter, when actually, physical matter (at least from the atomic level up) might very well be the one that is byproduct of this stuff.
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Would anyone say that during psychokinesis what is happening is that the person is manipulating those aspects that bring the physical world into existence so that a particular part, such as something moving, is created according to the newly changed parameters of the creation of the physical world?
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I definitely agree with owltwelve on the consciousness being fundamental. All experiences point to that.
However, I've found it difficult to arrive at that conclusion with only logic and rational thinking. Some time ago I analyzed finite, infinite, atomic and infinitely divisible universes with the assumption that all disturbances must be counterbalanced. Here's what I found:
With all the (accepted) science being based on logic and rational thinking, it seems to have formed from a finite atomic universe. It cannot properly comprehend infinitude. Moreover, all the measurement technology has sprung from science and assumes a finite atomic universe. Since the properties of an infinite universe cannot be measured with this technology, science is constantly reinforcing its own assumptions.
While it is possible to produce physical effects with psychic phenomena, the phenomena itself doesn't seem to be physical. Defying basic laws of physics, psychic phenomena seem to originate from an infinite universe that permeates (shines through) this finite atomic universe. Space, time, speed of light are properties of a finite atomic universe where they can be measured. In the infinite universe, "everything postulates consciousness," as Max Planck used to say. Basically, "this energy" boils down to consciousness.
I like this interpretation because it makes it possible to say "everyone's right" - it all depends on the type of the universe they're referencing. But this doesn't mean any of what I wrote here is true =D. Just an attempt at finding common ground between the two worlds.
The unreal hath no being; there is no non-being of the Real; ~Krishna
A stable-minded person will neither hug nor hate the world, he will take things as they come.
Everything that can, will and has happened.